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Real conversations with security leaders about what actually works in third-party risk.

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Patching Is Not a Security Strategy | TPRM Podcast Ep 15
Patching isn’t a strategy. Former NYSE CISO Jerry Perullo joins Nate Lee to break down why many security teams are defending the wrong things, reacting to noise, and missing the risks that actually matter.

Former NYSE CISO Jerry Perullo joins Nate Lee to talk real cyber risk, bad prioritization, vendor FUD, and what security teams keep getting wrong.

Ep 14 — AI Is Rewriting GRC | Ayub Fandi (GitLab)
GRC hasn’t kept up with the speed of modern security. Nate Lee sits down with Ayoub Fandi, GRC Engineering Lead at GitLab and author of the GRC Engineering Manifesto, to explore why most teams are still solving the wrong problems and what needs to change.

GRC hasn’t kept up with the speed of modern security.


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About the Podcast

The TPRM Podcast dives into the real-world trade-offs of managing third-party risk. Hosted by Nate Lee, a CISO and founder of Cloudsec.ai, each episode cuts through compliance noise and gets to the truth about what actually reduces risk in modern organizations.